Canada’s healthcare system, and most Western healthcare systems, have long been cisnormative. Meaning that they are run by cisgender people, based on science that was conducted primarily with cisgender people, with methods that have not sought to include trans, non-binary, or other gender diverse folks. We talk with Dr. Jesse Bossé and Dr. Françoise Susset about the reasons for this, and the difficulties many people face as a result.